In this episode of our podcast, host Ryan Graves sits down with pilot Mark Hulsey to discuss their experiences with unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP. Ryan is a former military pilot and the CEO of a UAP research organization, while Mark is a current commercial pilot with several encounters of his own to share.

Together, they delve into the details of Mark's encounters with UAP, including the strange and inexplicable maneuvers he witnessed firsthand. They also discuss the potential implications of these phenomena for aviation and national security, and the challenges of reporting and investigating UAP incidents within the industry.

Join us for this fascinating conversation as two pilots share their firsthand accounts and expertise on the topic of UAP.